Is God Bound by Natural Law?: Weekend PollBy: wheatmeister
We recently had a discussion about this on another thread.
LDS Anarchist said: “Now, we know that there is a law given in heaven and that He is the one who gave it. And we know that His law is based upon agency, not coercion. So, we have a law (created by God) based on agency, and a God that preceded the law (since He created it), who champions agency. And we also know that God is all-powerful (omnipotent.) To say, then, that there is a different law (a separate law) which preceded God, and which is not based upon agency, but upon coercion (the opposite of agency), to which God is subject, contradicts both His omnipotence, His rule of agency and His jealous nature.”
Hawkgrrrl quoted from this post on MormonTalk: “In mainstream Christianity, God is considered an eternal being who created the world and the universe in which we reside. Furthermore, he is a perfect being who cannot be controlled by any part of creation. However, in Mormon thought, we see God not as this platonic ideal but as a being subject to the natural laws of the universe who does not have power to overcome free will.”
ji summed it up nicely: “I really appreciate your characterization of your belief as speculation. I say that because I know that some Latter-day Saints would agree with you, but others wouldn’t, but they can all be good Latter-day Saints and find a place in the celestial kingdom of our God if all else works out. For me, in my present frame of reference, God is an eternal being who created the world and the universe in which we reside. Furthermore, He is a perfect being who cannot be controlled by any part of creation, but instead is One who speaks and creation obeys. . . when you say what you did, I can accept it as part of the diversity among us. When someone else says exactly the same thing but without the speculation caveat or some other note of personal belief, and paints a picture of speaking authoritatively for all Latter-day Saints, I sometimes have to disagree.”
It’s an LDS debate with a long and storied tradition. What do you think?
What is the nature of God?
- God is subject to natural laws. He just understands them, like a scientist, and knows how to use them to achieve his aims. (82%, 49 Votes)
- God is omnipotent. He makes the laws. There is no natural law that binds him since he is the creator of the natural laws. (18%, 11 Votes)
Total Voters: 60