Honor Code and 2-year hiatus for “Holy War”

By: Mormon Heretic
September 23, 2013
Is this Nephi or Catholic Jim McMahon leading BYU from a bygone era?

Is this Nephi or Catholic Jim McMahon leading BYU from a bygone era?

I was pleased to be in attendance for the final BYU-Utah football game (at least for 2 years), and especially pleased to see the Utes beat the Cougars for the 4th straight year.  Now that Utah is in the Pac-12 conference, their schedule is full of tough teams and the Pac-12 has arranged a schedule meeting with Big 10 teams.  Utah will play Michigan the next 2 years, and doesn’t have a spot on the schedule for BYU until 2016.

A strongly placed source says that the the director for ESPN refused to refer to the game as “the Holy War”, which it has been known locally as for decades.

What do you think of the term "Holy War" to describe the game?

  • Meh, I don't care one way or the other. (51%, 27 Votes)
  • It needs to go. (30%, 16 Votes)
  • I like it. (19%, 10 Votes)

Total Voters: 53

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In other news, starting linebacker Spencer Hadley did not playing in the game.  Hadley was allegedly photographed while clubbing in Las Vegas, which at a minimum is a BYU Honor Code violation, but could potentially be an NCAA violation as well. The Salt Lake Tribune is reporting that a Utah fan sent the photo to the Utah Compliance office, who then forwarded it to BYU.  Rumor has it that Hadley made a Word of Wisdom violation (probably alcohol.)  He is not being kicked out of school, but so far it sounds like a 5 game suspension is being handed down by BYU.

What’s your opinion on the matter?  Do BYU fans blame it on Hadley (or the Utah fan) that they lost?

Which option below best describes your opinion?

  • Hadley should never have been in Las Vegas. It's his own fault. (51%, 22 Votes)
  • The Utah fan should mind his own business. (30%, 13 Votes)
  • The Utah fan's photo was completely legitimate. (12%, 5 Votes)
  • Other (I'll add my answer in the comments below) (7%, 3 Votes)

Total Voters: 43

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There is also a rumor that Hadley was hanging out with a BYU booster, which would make this an NCAA violation–a much more serious matter in the eyes of the governing body.  If it is an NCAA violation, does that change how you answered the poll question?

And finally, I love how BYU fans complain that Utah fans are not classy.  Check out at how these classy BYU fans treated the refs from Saturday night’s game.  Is it time for the rivalry to end when fans act this poorly?

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11 Responses to Honor Code and 2-year hiatus for “Holy War”

  1. Will on September 23, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    I am just glad BYU lost.

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  2. Mormon Heretic on September 23, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Will, I think it’s awesome that we actually agree on something!!!

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  3. Left Field on September 23, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    I attended BYU on and off from 1977 to 1983 and I don’t recall ever hearing the game referred to as “the holy war.” I think I first encountered the term on the internet sometime in the last 5-10 years.

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  4. Left Field on September 23, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    If the SL Tribune archives are any indication, use of the term goes back to about 1999, and started becoming ubiquitous about 3 or 4 years later.

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  5. NewlyHousewife on September 23, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    The real ‘Holy War’ is being fought in the Middle East and has been for as long as I’ve been alive. ESPN director is in the right for not using a term that can easily be written as insensitive of the Jewish faith.

    But on a side note–was it just Hadley in Las Vegas? I can see non-member football players stating as long as they didn’t do something on campus (or in the state) it wouldn’t break the honor code. If that’s the case, I don’t seem them leaving for Las Vegas alone. If he were there, I assume at least one other teammate was too.

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  6. Douglas on September 23, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Egad. It’s friggin’ football! It’s for fun and promoting athletics and school spirit…cripes, it’d be BORING if “God’s” University went perpetually unbeaten and untied!

    Besides, I’m elated that my Bull-dogs FINALLY, after seven losses in a row, beat Boise State at home in spite of their best efforts to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The projection is that both teams will win their respective divisions in the Mountain West (which were not both Utah and the BYU in recently?), so the expected rematch will be in Fresno. Follow a REAL rivalry…

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  7. Jeff Spector on September 24, 2013 at 7:50 AM

    I found myself watching parts of the game Saturday night for some reason, but frankly have no dog in this fight since I didn’t attend either school. What was interesting is that I saw a BYU official on the sidelines mouth an obscenity when he didn’t like a particular call toward the end of the game. Not so surprised.

    And no sympathy for some idiot player who goes to Vegas. We all know that College athletes especially at big schools, get special treatment and sometimes they get caught. it’s more about the school officials attitudes than the athletes themselves.

    BTW, my school’s rivals were Fresno State and UC Davis.

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  8. TK on September 24, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Hmmm….you should save your yewt postings for the utefans message board.

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  9. Mormon Heretic on September 25, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Sports Illustrated wrote an update on Spencer Hadley: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130925/spencer-hadley-byu/

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  10. Roger on September 26, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    In the movie Junction Boys about Coach Bear Bryant’s first summer camp as the football coach at Texas A&M, there is a scene where Coach Bryant goes into a rant about football being “war”. He is overheard by an Aggie player’s father, a WWII vet and amputee, who coolly, yet forthrightly corrects the coach, “Football isn’t War”. People need to keep perspective.

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  11. Mormon Heretic on September 27, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Now Cody Hoffman has been suspended 1 game for honor code violation. What’s going on? See http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home3/56930560-200/byu-hoffman-football-game.html.csp

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